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January 14, 2008 at 11:27 pm | Posted in KDE | 9 Comments

I’m really tired of hearing all the same things again. Can’t we just have a page on the front of kde.org which points everybody who’s interested to the reasoning of doing a .0 release with quite a lot less features than the current stable 3.5.8 release? And then just post the link to that on each and every newspage, blog or other place where people complain about lack of features, instability and what not in KDE 4.0?

I mean, anybody who really wants to understand the why, can already find out, there’s no point in posting yet another blog entry about the reasons. All others don’t care anyway, there’s no point in trying to educate them, they don’t want to be educated. Obviously these people are just interested in argueing, without any reasoning, they’re just looking for a fight.

So fellow developers: Lets just stick to the decision that has been made and move on (I know most of you already do). History will tell, wether this is a new era for KDE or the beginning of its doom. Either way its really been enough blogging/commenting/mailing about why we do a release now and what the downsides are.

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9 Comments

  1. Trust me, I’ve seen it all before. The people complaining are a bunch of talentless morons. They have no idea about development, or how to make something that is great.

  2. don’t listen to those guys complaining. most of them probably aren’t kde users anyway. i’m sure most kde users feel positive about this release and its promising future.

    keep up the good work you kde devs !! “revolution” is a much more difficult step than “evolution”. you chose the right path, don’t let your motivation being affected by wrong echoes. these should be additional reasons to exceed your targets and your fellow users’ expectation. kde4 is already amazing and you’re about to make it even better.

    thanks for your time, skills and passion !

  3. Hi there!

    I’m just a simple user altought I used to be involved in the translation of kde to my native languaje, that’s Basque.
    I’ve been thinking whether it was appropiate to send this post to any of the devs’ blogs or not.
    Seing that some of you are starting to feel feed up, I decided it’s highly necessary.
    THANK YOU very much for KDE 4.0.0, I know it is not a “production” enviroment but I use it anyway althought not all the time.
    There are improvements to do, of course, but there are some magnificent bits that make the rest worth.
    A couple of years ago I would have killed for something like okular.
    Without a serious way of making a benchmark I’d say it runs faster in my old laptop (PIII- 1000 Mhz, 320 Mb RAM)
    Oxigen looks nice, and last but not least its the base for new things to come. I can’t wait to Koffice2, etc.
    And please, we (most users trying out KDE 4.0.0) know what 4.0.0 is about. The average person installing this release needs a minimum of knowledge even just because they must add a repository or something like, therefore, users will have a minimun curiosity and knoeledge: We know it was a need to release, and trust me wa needed it too, despite all the hard work that has to be done in the future.
    All the avobe brings me to say once more, THANK YOU.

  4. What did you expect? People not involved in the KDE project does not read KDE devs blogs. They just happen to know that KDE4 has a stable release (because 4.0.0 means stable to casual people). And they just blog about what they see.

    You cannot expect the whole world to be informed about the development details that justified the release.

    It’s not the beginning of the end, it’s just a marketing flop.

  5. You all don’t get it, blog about KDE being bad, or good or neither of the two, I’m far beyond reading any of those.

    But I’m getting tired of all the kde devs trying to explain in developer-blogs why kde4.0.0 was released now and not in 2 years. If people really want to find out, its easy enough with Google, if they don’t posting yet another blog about it doesn’t help. Bah, I’m already repeating myself.

  6. I guess the problem is that there was no hint about the missing functionality in the release notes. If you want to make a review, you should read the release notes about missing bits and current problems. But the release notes don’t offer these information afaik, so in this regard this is a marketing problem.

  7. Apaku, You’re right about the “repeating-myself” thing especially since real people don’t read kde devs blogs. Only KDE fans like me do.
    Software marketing is not something you can fix with a blog post. Or by completely ignoring it (like you seem to do).
    You need a strategy and you need a working product, like Mozilla did with Firefox.
    I hope KDE is going to learn this time (the hard way).

  8. A page like the KDE Myths page would be a good idea, IMHO. You can’t stop desktop fanboys from picking a fight, but it would be nice to be able to copy and paste a retort. I’m glad there was an strong rebuttal to the OSNews hatchet jo– article. Letting and echo chamber / noise machine define perceptions of KDE 4 for it lifetime is a bad idea given the investment made in it, and the fact that it is rather good for the most part. That’s one area where KDE lags, the noise machine. While trolling the alternative DEs press releases would be bad, KDE should be more assertive in setting standards and defining perceptions, without too much of a glossy PR machine. (KDE Devs have done better with this for KDE 4, IMHO.)

  9. Why, it’s almost as if “reviews and attention” somehow went hand-in-hand with “flooding Digg with announcements” and “throwing worldwide release parties with speakers and invited press.” Hooray for marketing!


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